Monday, January 25, 2010
John 2:19-21 for trinitarians.Did Jesus really die for you?
Watch the whole video please for some important reasoning.Then read this blog for something to ponder:
I present here SEVERAL possible interpretations of John 2:19-21,none of which I am dogmatic about.The most likely one to my reasoning is the figurative one.Jesus really died and God's definition of death is a cessation of breath & life.(When your spirit returns to God that means you have to count on Him to restore your breath of life in the resurrection.Just like he breathed into Adam's nostrils that breath of life animating Adam and giving him breath & life.Adam was NOT ALIVE until he did.And he didn't blow into Adam's nostrils a separate person/entity.He did the same thing for Jesus on the third day.And he'll do the same thing for us in the resurrection like he did for Jesus.)Simply put,if you believe Jesus was breathing(when our spirits leave us that means our breath does),had consciousness(ec. 9:5), and was able to think while he was dead(ps 146:4),then you neither believe God's definition of death nor that Jesus died at all.That is SERIOUS.Does metaphorical sleeping(used to connote God's ability to wake one up in a resurrection) actually suggest to you "wide awake somewhere?"(Matthew 9:23-25, John 11:11-14, Jeremiah 51:39, Acts 7:60)If not,again,from where did you get your definition of death?Again,if our spirits leave us that doesn't mean we're alive.It means we lost our ability to think,move,exist and breathe!And only God can return those abilities when He resurrects us through Christ,just like he did FOR Christ on the THIRD day.Amazingly,Christians think when our breath(aka spirit) leaves us that means a separate entity escapes immortal.Philosophy of man has erased truth for Christians on this integral matter.It also allows them to hold tight to the trinity doctrine because they know God cannot die.One lie leads to another.
I found this in my documents but can't find the site addy :(It's from a webpage though and ALSO makes sense to me!)When I said there are many possible interpretations I wasn't kidding.
Now you are Christ's body, and individually members of it. (1 Cor 12:27)
It should be clear from scripture, then, that Jesus was referring to his spiritual body—his Church—when he said after three days he will raise it up. And sure enough, this was his primary objective after his resurrection—the raising up of Christians into his spiritual body, who would comprise Gods temple, and in whom the Holy Spirit would dwell. They would carry on his work into the future, down to our day. Indeed, on the very evening of his resurrection, precisely and immediately after the three days of death, he appears to disciples, commissions them, and breathes on them saying, receive the Holy Spirit. (Jn 20:19-22). He thus begins the raising up of his body as he prophesied.