Tuesday, March 10, 2009

9 big lies in Christianity

I've been through these lies before but since the key and core doctrines of christendom are based upon these I feel it is important to emphasize BIBLICAL christianity.As opposed to Platonic or Papal or Creedal "christianity".

**Lie # 1:Death is the separation of the soul from the body.Souls never die.

*Genesis 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die

*Ezekial 18:4 :Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

*Psalm 146:4 His spirit departs, he returns to the earth; In that very day his thoughts perish.(spirit is "breath of life" like that which Jah gave Adam in order to be animate..that which can be restored upon resurrection)

*Matthew 10:28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.(hell=gehenna(in this instance),where everything is burned up,consumed,annihilated)

*Matthew 9:23-25, John 11:11-14, Jeremiah 51:39, Acts 7:60-sleeping(IF the soul is alive burning or in heaven,then why a need for a resurrection at all or a FUTURE judgment day at all?Wouldn't the soul burning alive or existing in heaven dictate that a judgment has ALREADY been made?Wouldn't all the people who were resurrected in the word of God at least have mentioned the torment or bliss they had been brought back from?And wouldn't it have been intolerable cruelty to bring someone back from their "home with God?")

**Lie # 2:God is three persons.

*Deuteronomy 6:4 (New International Version)
4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one


Deuteronomy 6:4 Or The LORD our God is one LORD; or The LORD is our God, the LORD is one ; or The LORD is our God, the LORD alone

*Deuteronomy 32:39:there is no God besides Me(as opposed to "US")

*Isaiah 37:16:You are God, You alone(as opposed to "you are God..you three alone "OR "You three are God alone")

*Isaiah 43:10-11:Before Me there was no God formed, nor shall there be after Me(as opposed to "there is no God but us and we are three.")

*Isaiah 46:9:I am God, and there is no other(as opposed to "I am God and there are two others")

*John 5:44:How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God? (as opposed to "the only God who I am 1/3 of")

*James 2:19:You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe -- and tremble!(as opposed to "one God,three persons")

*1 Corinthians 8:4:Therefore concerning the eating of things offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no other God but one(as opposed to three)

*Jude 1:24:the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord(as opposed to the three personed god our savior,through one of the persons in the same God)
*Matthew 16:15 He said to them: “you, though, who do you say I am?” 16 In answer Simon Peter said: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”(as opposed to "You are God the son,coequal and cosubstantial with God the father,one hundred percent God on top of one hundred percent man,and sometimes you let your human nature trump your God nature when you don't know certain things and when the human will is different from your "God will" then the human will sometimes wins because well,why wouldn't it?)

*John 17:3: This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.(as opposed to "taking in knowledge of you ,the only true God which includes the Lord I am about to mention in the same God I just mentioned.)

Sadly,I could go on forever.

**Lie # 3:Those before the throne have to be in heaven.And they can't be on earth because God is with them!(from revelation 7:9,which I think pertains to those on earth who survive the great tribulation)

The greek word translated "before" is enopion and means "in the sight of" and is used several times of humans on earth who are "before" or "in the sight of" Jehovah(from Revelation book,a WTBTS publication)

*Romans 14:22: The faith that you have, have it in accord with yourself in the sight of God. Happy is the man that does not put himself on judgment by what he approves.

*Galatians 1:20: Now as to the things I am writing you, look! in the sight of God, I am not lying.

I would venture so amazingly far as to say we are before God's throne,all of us,RIGHT NOW.

Revelation 21:3: With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.” (I believe this is referring to those on earth..Some Christians say that is impossible because God doesn't dwell with anyone on earth)

Leviticus 26:11,12:11 And I shall certainly put my tabernacle in the midst of you,and my soul will not abhor you. 12 And I shall indeed walk in the midst of you and prove myself your God, and you,on your part, will prove yourselves my people
In other words,when people obey God and seek him,even on earth,he DOES dwell with them,figuratively.Remember Adam and Eve had a direct relationship with Jehovah before they sinned and they sure didn't live in heaven.

Reasons why I think they ARE on earth..
1.They have palm branches,which to me screams "peace on earth"..it's possible I'm wrong but it's an opinion)

2.It is said they won't have to worry about the scorching sun or tears etc,all things people on earth would have to worry about,not those in heaven.

6.Why would God need to spread his tent over the heavens?Also,see all texts about the earth being populated forever and Jehovah never abandoning his purposes..one of which is paradise :))

The list ACTUALLY goes on and on.

**Lie # 4: All good people go to heaven.

*Matthew 5:5: “Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.

*Psalm 37:29: The righteous themselves will possess the earth,
And they will reside forever upon it.

**Lie # 5:The lake of fire and eternal fire are literal.The Rich man and Lazarus are literal..

Few facts..If the Rich man and Lazarus is literal then you will live in Abraham's busom when you go to heaven.You will also be chit chatting with those burning alive in hell while you are in Abraham's busom in heaven.And all those in that fire will need is a lil drop of water and all will be well.Without research and by memory,I will say for right now that I THINK Lazarus symbolizes Good Christians in Jehovah's favor (busom position means in a favorable close relationship) ,Abraham symbolizes Jehovah,The rich man symbolizes people like the Pharisees who are spiritually ostracized from God and cannot possess his favor because they are not approved.Their judgment will be destruction and that IS the torment..their spiritual darkness,ostracization and ultimate annihilation.After all,fire CONSUMES what it burns and those in it become stubble,ashes,destroyed.Now Fire is used to symbolize that destruction from which there can be no resurrection so that is the judgment that is harsher than others.Those who have no chance of resurrection.In the OT when evil cities were burned up it was a COMPLETE AND UTTER annihilation,never to be inhabited again.I think this is the difference in hades and sheol and gehenna..Gehenna is like the lake of fire,NO resurrection,no hope.

*Revelation 21:8 their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death

*Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even the memory of them is forgotten.

*Psalms 115:17-dead are silent,don't praise Jah

*Malachi 4:1:For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch

**Lie # 6:Once saved,always saved.

*1 Corinthians6:9 What! Do you not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, 10 nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom.

*Phillipians 2:12:Consequently, my beloved ones, in the way that you have always obeyed, not during my presence only, but now much more readily during my absence, keep working out your own salvation with fear and trembling

*Hebrews 10:26 For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left, 27 but [there is] a certain fearful expectation of judgment and [there is] a fiery jealousy that is going to consume those in opposition. 28 Any man that has disregarded the law of Moses dies without compassion, upon the testimony of two or three. 29 Of how much more severe a punishment, do you think, will the man be counted worthy who has trampled upon the Son of God and who has esteemed as of ordinary value the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and who has outraged the spirit of undeserved kindness with contempt? 30 For we know him that said: “Vengeance is mine; I will recompense”; and again: “Jehovah will judge his people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of [the] living God.

* 1 John 5:3: For this is what the love of God means, that we observe his commandments

*Zephaniah 2:3:seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, who have practiced His own judicial decision. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably you may be concealed in the day of Jehovah’s anger.

*Romans 2:6 And he will render to each one according to his works: 7 everlasting life to those who are seeking glory and honor and incorruptibleness by endurance in work that is good

*1 Corinthians 10:12 Consequently let him that thinks he is standing beware that he does not fall

**Lie # 7:There can't be two creators or two saviors.Therefore,Jesus IS Jehovah.

..If you can't discern the following and what it means then I can't reason with ya.

*Jude 25: to the only God, our Savior, through Jesus the Messiah(as opposed to the only God our savior through another person in the same God,God the son Jesus,but not with the exclusion of the third person who I seem to be forgetting to mention a lot.)

* 1 Corinthians 8:6:yet for us there is only one God, the Father, from whom everything came into being and for whom we live. And there is only one Lord, Jesus the Messiah, through whom everything came into being and through whom we live.(as opposed to one God the father from whom everything came and one other person in the same God,God the son Jesus Christ,THROUGH whom everything came.)

Ever heard of God using people to make things happen?And doesn't it make sense that he has a chief agent and a MOST beloved and a firstborn son(who had to be MADE firstborn Ps. 89:27)("firstborn" connotates inheritances...yes!Jesus will inherit a kingdom as his most beloved firstborn.) who he would use to accomplish his will?God can't be contained in flesh and he can't be a man who can die(he's consistently imperishable.) And neither can another supposed person in the same God if that person is the same God as the other.Unbiblical philosophical creed spoutin nonsense!

Yep,anyone Jehovah uses to save or make all things new,as an agent,can be called savior and creator.But we aren't left in the dark who used them as a tool,albeit a mighty and beloved and elevated one.That's right JEHOVAH sends.JEHOVAH gives his spirit without measure.JEHOVAH sustains and saves THROUGH others.Who's behind the wheel ultimately?The one who uses or the one who is used?The One who gives the spirit or the one who is given the spirit?

*Lie # 8:Jesus only appeared to be fully man..he was REALLY also 100 percent God.

*Matthew 4:1-2; Mark 1:13 compare to Titus 1:2; James 1:13(stop saying a human nature limits a God nature..that is not even a possibility)

*Hebrews 2:17 :For this reason he had to be made like his brothers in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people.(are his brothers 100 percent God too?)

*Hebrews 4:15: For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin.(Remember he was the Last Adam,who COULD'VE been without sin if he had relied upon Jehovah as heavily as Jesus did..in other words "without sin" doesn't mean he is God,it means he supplicated continually,relied on the spirit of his God and father to make it through,and conquered the world DESPITE being legitimately tempted and tried..a TRUE inspiration and example,as opposed to a pretender who couldn't REALLY succumb to temptation or be tried or die completely)

*Luke 2:52:Jesus grew in wisdom (God grew in wisdom?)

*Hebrews 5:8: Jesus learnt obedience (God learned obedience?)

*Lie # 9:Jesus never really died..his soul always lived.

Souls don't have immortality unless Jehovah allows them to.Jesus was GIFTED immortality AFTER being raised on the third day.Anything outside that is an unbiblical assumption inspired by philosophy and lies about the soul.

*Matt. 12:39-40:three days and three nights in the heart of the earth

*Revelation 1:18:the living one. I was dead, but look-I am alive forever and ever!

The actual PERSON of Jesus died,or Jesus lied.A flesh capsule with no person in it cannot properly die.

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